Removing MioNet after using MioNet

Removing MioNet after using MioNet

oreomankelly 1193768521|%e %b %Y, %H:%M %Z|agohover

I bought my 1Tb drive a few weeks ago. Best Buy had a pretty nice deal on it and my company was paying for it since I work SOHO.

Not knowing the "hackability" of the MyBook World Edition, I setup MioNet like a good soldier and began copying files as fast as I could (Which is not saying much).

Over the weekend, I discovered the growing populous of MBWEackers and have dug through most of the webpages and information available.

The reason for this post is to see if removing MioNet will break my access to my files from my windows machine? When MioNet comes up, it maps the "K:" drive for me automatically. Since I am using a laptop, I have setup certain files to be synchronized. During the work day, I work directly from the "K:" drive making edits to my documents and storing this and that. At the end of the day, I let it all sync again and move along happily knowing that my data is "safe."

Now, if I disable MioNet on my computer, I can no longer access the files. I go to start-> Run and type in \\192.168.x.x\ normally and it pops up with the id00012031 folder and the public folder. When MioNet is running, I can navigate away as if the drive were local. If MioNet is stopped, I am faced with a password prompt that I am unable to figure out. I have tried every password in the world.

So, if I I diable MioNet on my computer and on the drive, how will I be able to access those files and continue using "K:" like I do today? Do I have to ssh into the drive and change permissions?

I have installed telnet on the drive, but I plan to change over to ssh. I have also installed ncurses 5.6 and nano 2.0.6. I really want to expand the functionality of this drive, but I do not want to lose the data that I have already moved to it.

Re: Removing MioNet after using MioNet

tcblack 1193776899|%e %b %Y, %H:%M %Z|agohover

Your milleage may vary. But i did the same thing and the next day killed MioNet. I've not had a problem at all. The only difference I've noted is this:
the mybook keeps YOUR files under /shares/internal/ When you use the web interface to add a shared directory it goes there as:

/shares/internal/yourseconddirectory
/shares/internal/yourthirddirectory

with mionet installed you connect your shared hard drive to k: and you see
K:/yourfirstdirectory
K:/yourseconddirectory
k:/yourthirddirectory

Without mionet you'll only be able to map to the subfolders so that:
K: will be /shares/internal/yourfirstdirectory/
L: will be /shares/internal/yourseconddirectory/
M: and so forth.

To fix that…
go to the web interface and create another directory and callanything like mappeddrive
Then from ssh (or telnet) go to /shares/internal
su to root.
From root su to web-data
mv yourfirstdirectory mappeddrive/
do the same for the rest of your directories so that they're all under mappeddrive

Now in windows with mionet turned off you can map k: to /shares/internal/mappeddrive
now once again you'll see
K:/yourfirstdirectory
K:/yourseconddirectory
k:/yourthirddirectory

Re: Removing MioNet after using MioNet

oreomankelly 1193779159|%e %b %Y, %H:%M %Z|agohover

Thank you for this great information!

My only issue is su to web-data. When I type "su web-data," I receive "su: user web-data does not exist." What am I missing?

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oreomankelly 1193779254|%e %b %Y, %H:%M %Z|agohover

Should it be su www-data?

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utsiplu 1193782151|%e %b %Y, %H:%M %Z|agohover

yes, if you look in /shares/internal, public shares are owned root:www-data and private shares www-data:root

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oreomankelly 1193783244|%e %b %Y, %H:%M %Z|agohover

Think I have it all now…

As a follow-up: As root, I have to change the owner and group of each folder to www-data. When using MioNet, all of the files were created as root being the owner and group. By changing all of the folders and subfolders (Recursively) to www-data, I am able to access the files. For reference, I typed chown -hR www-data:www-data foldername for each of the folders that I have in /shares/internal (Except for Public, lost+found and the new folder I had created). After that, I am able to move the files to the new folder!

Goodbye MioNet!

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tcblack 1193840504|%e %b %Y, %H:%M %Z|agohover

sorry about my typo :-) Glad you figured it out.

One thing I discovered that will enable you to map /shares/internal to a drive letter with far less gymnastics is to edit
/var/oxsemi/senvid.inc
it will say something like:

[ID10261549]
path=/shares/internal
force user=root
valid users=mionet-username
read list=mionet-username
write list=mionet-username

All you need to do is change it to:

[ID10261549]
path=/shares/internal
force user=root
valid users=yourusername
read list=yourusername
write list=yourusername

then

sudo /etc/init.d/samba.sh restart

Now from windows navigate to \\yourworldbook-whateverit's-called
Look for the folder that matches the number at the top of senvid.inc (mine was ID10261549)
map that to a drive letter and it will look and act just like it did with mionet without the mionet software in the way.

I'm intrigued at how mionet just complicated everything about this system. The ONLY thing it might be good for would be to enable sharing over the internet. (which is admittedly the selling point.)

Yet it appears to me that without wasting mionet resources you would be able to secure samba with a mandatory login across the internet and still be alright. Why not force a tunneled connection via ssh? I don't know - all the tools are already on the system to do this but they opted for a proprietary software instead of the opensource ones.

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raggett 1194261967|%e %b %Y, %H:%M %Z|agohover

Hi

I am using an XP notebook and mionet has mapped the western digital drive to K. I went looking on the K drive for the
/var/oxsemi/senvid.inc that was mentioned in the above discussion
but was unable to locate this on the disk or on on my lap top. I want to get rid of mionet and just be able to map the drive to the WD 500GB hard disk. Can any one help me with this problem
Thanks

Rob

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tcblack 1194382373|%e %b %Y, %H:%M %Z|agohover

raggett,
you really need to investigate the smb.conf documentation referenced above. This is not just an RTM, it's an effort to help you not brick your mybook.

In the file senvid.inc you'll see a string of numbers and letters enclosed in brackets like [wer2342].
if in windows you navigate to \\myworldbook (or whatever it's called on your network) you'll see that wer23242 will be a folder but you won't have access unless you do the edits listed above.

Mionet makes it transparent but K is simply mapping to /shares/internal which is listed as the path right under [wer2342].

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Re: Removing MioNet after using MioNet

raggett 1194829391|%e %b %Y, %H:%M %Z|agohover

ttblack

thanks for this but I am still having problems, I can't locate serviceid_inc file and I can't find a directory such as wer2342. I have tried showing all hidden files but nothing comes up. I am also confused on how you can telnet to this external drive. Grateful for any help

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tcblack 1195161202|%e %b %Y, %H:%M %Z|agohover

You're not going to change anything through the Windows Explorer file manager. you have to go the long way around if you want to access the system of the mybook. In this case the Long way around means gaining access to the command line on the mybook.
You'll need to start with SSH access. Look at "First Steps" and "hacking and how to's" from the left menu on top of this page.
you need to familiarize yourself with some of the posts on this forum as well.

Tell you what. Tell me what you know about using Linux and I'll try to help you out. I realize telling you to go read something can sound rude, and that's not my goal. I'm willing to help but I need to know how much you know before I try.

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raggett 1196653212|%e %b %Y, %H:%M %Z|agohover

Thanks, I will more than likely need some help as my UNix skills are very poor. I will read up on the side pages, but Iwould be grateful for any asistance

Thanks

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rds1975 1204120034|%e %b %Y, %H:%M %Z|agohover

Hi raggett

Initially i also struggled on how to use unix commands. you need to learn few commands on how to change directory, rename files and
read/write files. look at the below link on unix commands

http://www.math.uic.edu/~hanson/UNIX/UnixDictionary.html#UNIX-FILE

i did as per told in the above links and it worked great for my 1tb notebook and removed mionet and using windows to connect.
First you need to download SSH windows client. I downloaded putty and FTP commander. Putty is free and you can download from below link

http://the.earth.li/~sgtatham/putty/latest/x86/putty.exe

1. Upgrade your firmware with the link provided below. I tried 3-4 links provided allover the site and only this one below worked

http://<IP-OF-YOUR-MYBOOK>/auth/firmware_upgrade.pl?fwserver=www.geekoh.com/mybook/ssh2

if your get a message the drive is busy. click mionet icon on your task bar and close it and then power off your WD Drive and reboot.
mionet will not login to drive. Now you can upgrade firmware.
it will take couple of minutes and you will get a message in the WD saying the firmware is applied.
Dont reboot the drive now. Open putty now and click the session meny left side and add the ip address of your WD drive. Generally
it will be 192.168.0.3 like that. if you are not sure, check the attached devices menu in router config screen, it will show your WDH ip.
use port 22 to connect to WDH and in connection type choose SSH and thats it.

before loggin in with putty. create a shared user name in the WDH portal "file sharing" table as you have to login in putty with that
user id and password.

now go to putty and enter the ip address and login. it will ask for user id and password
enter and login and then type su - command immediately to switch to root .

though you have installed SSH it wont be enabled when you restart, so you have to add a line in inittab file.
if you want to look at the structure of files in WDH like windows explorer, you need to install ftp commander and add mybookworld ip as a server
and then login with the created user id and password and see the folder structure and files. you cant edit files with FTP commander, but get
and idea of folder structure.

Now, come back to putty command prompt and type

#cd /etc

this will change to etc directory
then type

#ls

the above will list all the files in the directory.

you can see inittab file

now type

#vi inittab

this will open the file in read mode

go to the last line and press "i" to insert line. look at the unix command for syntax

here you type

::sysinit:/usr/sbin/sshd

and then

#wq to save and quit the editor.

now you can power off and restart drive with power button and then try logging in with putty again.
if you can succesfully login, you have spawned ssh .

similarty you can use

1. cd /var/oxsemi

the above will take you to the folder path. here you will find senvid.inc file

1. vi senvid.inc

type the above command to open the file and edit is as said above to change the user login details

As mentioned in the above threads you will find something like this

[ID10261549]
path=/shares/internal
force user=root
valid users=mionet-username
read list=mionet-username
write list=mionet-username

change the mionet-username to the shared username you have created in the last 3 lines and save the file

1. sudo /etc/init.d/samba.sh restart

type the above command to restart the samba server

now exit putty and go to start command -> run and type the ip address of your WDH

you will see the folder name with ID10261549 similar to this. you number will be different
right click and map network drive to a letter now. thats it and your are done

everytime you start your pc, it will show the mapped network drive. when you click it, it will ask for user name and password
enter the shared username and password and thats it

you can now remove mionet software from the pc

the above steps you are doing at your own risk. any incorrect file edit commands will brick your drive. be careful

Bye

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timoteij 1209663075|%e %b %Y, %H:%M %Z|agohover

Hi

I have been reading this post for the last however many days now and am almost there but have come up against another hurdle and really really need your help before this Mionet crap does my head in :-(

Ive got right up to this bit -

" #wq to save and quit the editor.

now you can power off and restart drive with power button and then try logging in with putty again. if you can succesfully login, you have spawned ssh "

Well thats just it! I logged in the first time but now cant again. What do I do? Ive tried rebooting however many times but no joy and Ive tried reinstalling the firmware but no joy.

Also could you please tell me where to enter the username in the putty settings. Under Connection/Data/Auto-Login username? Or is it under Connection/RLogin/Local Username?

I hope you can help. Im not new to Linux/Some Unix commands as I do everything by command on my EEPC but this is killing me!

Thanks

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m4tty 1207598045|%e %b %Y, %H:%M %Z|agohover

Hi all,

I am new to the site and to UNIX etc, have done a bit of work with it but nothing too major. I am a bit stuck with this 1TB WD MioNet malarky.

It say's:-

To fix that…
go to the web interface and create another directory and callanything like mappeddrive
Then from ssh (or telnet) go to /shares/internal
su to root.
From root su to web-data
mv yourfirstdirectory mappeddrive/
do the same for the rest of your directories so that they're all under mappeddrive

When you say ssh or Telnet I get problem's

I tried using Putty to SSH and it won't let me on at all. Connection refused error. The network is fine as i can ping it etc.
And when Telnet is used i am a bit unsure what i am supposed to do.
This is what i did

(in DOS)
telnet <enter>
o 192.168.1.3 <enter>
then all i get is……
Connecting To 192.168.1.3…Could not open connection to the host, on port 23: C
onnect failed
Microsoft Telnet>

Please help me i know you'll prob think i am an idiot but this MioNet is really annoying me with the stupid access right's ) :

Yours hopefully
m4tty

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m4tty 1207696371|%e %b %Y, %H:%M %Z|agohover

Hahahahahah i got it workingi got ssh running now, i was being a bit dumb sorry ( :

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timoteij 1210256872|%e %b %Y, %H:%M %Z|agohover

Hi

I have been reading this post for the last however many days now and am almost there but have come up against another hurdle and really really need your help before this Mionet crap does my head in :-(

Ive got right up to this bit -

" #wq to save and quit the editor.

now you can power off and restart drive with power button and then try logging in with putty again. if you can succesfully login, you have spawned ssh "

Well thats just it! I logged in the first time but now cant again. What do I do? Ive tried rebooting however many times but no joy and Ive tried reinstalling the firmware but no joy.

Also could you please tell me where to enter the username in the putty settings. Under Connection/Data/Auto-Login username? Or is it under Connection/RLogin/Local Username?

I hope you can help. Im not new to Linux/Some Unix commands as I do everything by command on my EEPC but this is killing me!

Thanks

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timoteij 1211716436|%e %b %Y, %H:%M %Z|agohover

How come nobodys replying any more? something I said ? Please this is driving me crazy

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Morbid_angell99 1212821132|%e %b %Y, %H:%M %Z|agohover

Hi

You need to add the following line in /etc/inittab if you want to be able to access ssh the next time you login after you reboot
::sysinit:/usr/sbin/sshd

Don't bother about Connection/Data/Auto-Login username in putty.You really don't need to make any changes

Can anyone help me out of this problem
I modified /var/oxsemi/senvid.inc based on the steps mentioned. I can also view the ID10261549, but when I try to map it. it requests me for a username and password and I have tried out all the username and passwod including the mionet one, but can't seem to connect to it to may it to my computer.

Can anyone help

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belo_es 1213340398|%e %b %Y, %H:%M %Z|agohover

Hello,

Taking mionet installed in MBWE and on the PC, I created several folder in MBWE.

PUBLIC
folder1
folder2
etc. …

I have hability the ssh, and I connect smoothly

I create a user (admin1) and password (555555) in the MBWE portal.

Reboot the MBWE

I edit the /etc/int.d/post_network_start.sh

start() {
    if [ ! -e "$POST_NETWORK_STARTED_FILE" ]
    then
        $SCRIPTS_PATH/shares-cleanup.sh start
        $SCRIPTS_PATH/crond.sh start
        $SCRIPTS_PATH/fuel_gauge.sh start
#          $SCRIPTS_PATH/mionet.sh start
        touch $POST_NETWORK_STARTED_FILE
    fi
}

I open the /var/oxsemi/senvid.inc

[ID18xxxx32]
path=/shares/internal
valid users=mionet-admin1
read list=mionet-admin1
write list=mionet-admin1

[ID21xxxx73]
path=/shares/internal/User1
valid users=mionet-invitee
read list=mionet-invitee
force user=www-data
write list=mionet-invitee

and chage to

[ID18xxxx32]
path=/shares/internal
valid users=root
read list=root
write list=root

[ID21xxxx73]
path=/shares/internal/User1
valid users=mionet-invitee
read list=mionet-invitee
force user=www-data
write list=mionet-invitee

Reboot the MBWE

when I attempt to connect [ID18xxxx32] from windows, asking me User and password

I put admin1 and 555555 and I replied that the password is not correct

I put root and 555555 and I replied that the password is not correct.

Only I can connect to the folder PUBLIC.

Thanks

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alephsmith 1213342523|%e %b %Y, %H:%M %Z|agohover

Try:

[ID18xxxx32]
path=/shares/internal
valid users=admin1
read list=admin1
write list=admin1

[ID21xxxx73]
path=/shares/internal/User1
valid users=mionet-invitee
read list=mionet-invitee
force user=www-data
write list=mionet-invitee

Your root password should be set to blank after running Martin's ssh hack. You may like to reinstate the password for the root user.
The admin user you created is NOT the same as the root user. It is not wise to run as root where possible.

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belo_es 1213344309|%e %b %Y, %H:%M %Z|agohover

Thanks

I put like this

[ID18xxxx32]
path=/shares/internal
valid users=admin1
read list=admin1
write list=admin1

[ID21xxxx73]
path=/shares/internal/User1
valid users=mionet-invitee
read list=mionet-invitee
force user=www-data
write list=mionet-invitee

but when It ask me the user and password I put

admin1 and 555555

But it say the password it's incorrect.

thanks

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alephsmith 1213346005|%e %b %Y, %H:%M %Z|agohover

Have you restarted samba?

I think it is necessary between modifications.

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belo_es 1213346644|%e %b %Y, %H:%M %Z|agohover

yes I restart the samba and the MBWE.

I think the problem is the users and the password of the MBWE.
If I conect the web of the MBWEI use admin1 and 5555555, after that I change the password but the problem it's the same

It's posible delete all the users and the password of the MBWE? or know the password of the admin1?

Thanks

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wuubie 1215130988|%e %b %Y, %H:%M %Z|agohover

hello all

i quickly found after buying my book that the mionet software was a huge pita, but tried to work with it. then i gave up and decided to hack my book to remove mionet.

i was able to access my book via telnet, enabled ssh and added ssh to startup then installed optnet.. all worked fine.

then i removed mionet by moving mionet.sh to mionet.sh.bak, commenting out post_network_start.sh, and edited /var/oxsemi/senvid.inc replacing with my user.

now i am not able to access mybook via its ip address or name. i cannot map the drive because its not found. i'm using vista.

i am still able to telnet and ssh and all my files are still present.

telnet connections completely fail on port 80, but i'm not sure what step broke my access following the getting started guide here and this discussion thread.

any ideas on what i did to break my access, or how to correct it?

or, dare i say it? have i bricked my book? LOL

any help is greatly appreciated!

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alephsmith 1215135038|%e %b %Y, %H:%M %Z|agohover

Why don't you move the mionet script back to its original location:

# mv /etc/init.d/mionet.sh.bak /etc/init.d/mionet.sh

It is well stated around the place that simply removing the mionet script is a good way to brick the box, instead you should edit /etc/init.d/post_network_start.sh to no longer call the script by commenting out the lines:

$SCRIPTS_PATH/mionet.sh start

and

$SCRIPTS_PATH/mionet.sh stop

Maybe this should be made more explicit somewhere.

Oh and to answer your question we might need a couple more details about what you edited immediately before you lost access. It sounds like samba isn't working, hence no access to your shares. I assume you did reboot? Check is samba is running ps aux|grep smb.

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wuubie 1215303812|%e %b %Y, %H:%M %Z|agohover

here are all the changes i made leading up to the problem, all within about 1 hour period:
enabled telnet
reboot
enabled ssh
add to startup
reboot
install optware
reboot
edit /var/oxsemi/senvid.inc and replace with my uid
restart samba (sudo /etc/init.d/samba.sh restart) reports no errors. still able to access web gui
commented out start/stop mionet.sh in post_network_start.sh, then moved mionet.sh to mionet.sh.bak

samba is running, able to stop and start just fine. and all files i was able to upload before beginning this process are still present on the mbwe. i just cannot get to the web gui or map the drive.

i have backed out of the changes i made:

moving the script for mionet back, with no luck accessing gui or mapping drive. rebooted.
rolled back changes to post_network_start.sh, no luck. rebooted.
rolled back /var/oxsemi/senvid.inc, no luck, rebooted.

i even reinstalled mionet on my laptop, but it cannot see the drive at all, just says its offline.

i appreciate your time helping me out alephsmith!

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TeinturMan 1215505083|%e %b %Y, %H:%M %Z|agohover

Hi , I have successfully removed Mionet, and now i access my Mybook remotely using the Web Server.
(i allowed browsing on my web site.)

But i cannot upload , remove , or move files.

Does someone knows a simple ( As fast as possible) php File Manager applet that could run easily on php server ( low memory and low cpu…) ?
Or a perl-cgi script that i would include in the Admin site of Web Server ?
it is not needed to be beautifull, just simple and fast…

i killed MIONET because it was so slow….
Thanks for your feedbacks,

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garvster 1215662140|%e %b %Y, %H:%M %Z|agohover

you know i really don't like using MioNet as much as the rest of you guys. since the day i got it which was 4 days ago, its only picked up my drive once! I have XP but never installed SP3, so i talked to one of my friends who said that the problem lies in not having SP3 installed since SP3 is geared towards networking.

So ok i installed SP3 which kind of forced me to reinstall MioNet cause it wasn't connecting at all. Even still after SP3 installed i cant get MioNet to pick up my drive. So i started looking for ways around it and that's how i ended up here.

But the thing is when i read the posts it seems like you guys cannot access your hard drives at all without MioNet? Even before i started looking for ways around MioNet I was able to go into My Network Places folder and i can pick it up fine. Iv got it my folders mapped to three of my computers just fine.

is it that you guys are using Linux? Unix? ..iv never used either one. cause if i can pick up the hard dive so easy than im sure you smarter folks should pick it up.

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TeinturMan 1215669992|%e %b %Y, %H:%M %Z|agohover

Hi garvster,

The main advantage of Mionet is that it is able to map a network drive (K: letter , for example) while you are in your job's office. Another feature is to allow groups of friends to access some of your files.

The main problems are :
- it is slow and unreactive
- it uses a large amount of the Mybook memory
- There are some permissions problems if you use MIONET only on one of your computers ( MIONET uses root while if you connect without MIONET, your files will be WWW-DATA).

==> Without MIONET, the way i access my mybook is the following :
- From my home: i map a network drive directly from my xp computer ( Explorer / tools / MapNetworkDrive)
- From my job's office, i can access my files (in read only mode) via a web interface. ( see web server.
- I also have nearly finished the developpment of a Web File manager that allows upload, copy,cut, paste, rename and delete actions from the web server Admin interface.
I will post it in the forum very soon . (if you want to be a beta tester, please ,contact me…)

Regards,

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TeinturMan 1215697215|%e %b %Y, %H:%M %Z|agohover

Hi,
I have posted my Web File Manager tutorial on the following link :
http://mybookworld.wikidot.com/webfilemanager

This allows to remotely manage files and folders via a web interface : upload, copy,paste,rename and delete

I made it as simple and fast as i could…

It is based on a new version of the WebMgr.pl perl script of the Web Server tutorial.

Hope it will also be usefull for you…

Regards

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Neutral 1236876083|%e %b %Y, %H:%M %Z|agohover

Hello everybody,

First of all, please forgive my unperfect English (I'm French :-)

I've gone through the MBWE hack 2 or 3 days after having bought my drive so I was gone crazy by that @^#"! of Mionet.
So I've uninstalled everything and stopped the Mionet process in my MBWE.
I followed the tutorials to install some good stuff (Optware, Accessbook, sftpd) and everything works rather fine.
But… I'm getting psychotic trying to find a way to remove the ID* "folder" that appears in my Windows explorer.
I asked WD support, thinking there was a way to get rid of it through Monet, but none of their "tips" worked.

Please can someone tell me if there is a way to remove that file (I assume it is linked to the old Mionet profile) so that I can keep only the PUBLIC folder in the explorer ?

Thanks forward for your help !