500mb. max transfer?

500mb. max transfer?

peelout 05 Sep 2008 16:02

noob here. i dig the site.

anyway, i'm looking into getting a my book 500gb world edition. however, i heard you can only transfer files sized 500mb or smaller. transfer over 500mb file and it will lock the my book, forcing you to do a hard reset, losing data.

is any of this true?

thanks in advance. if this has already been talked about, i apologize for being repetitive and ask you to point me in the right direction.

Re: 500mb. max transfer?

ETMegabyte 05 Sep 2008 17:44

No, this is not true.

I have files on my MBWE that are 20+ GB.

-ET

Re: 500mb. max transfer?

peelout 05 Sep 2008 21:54

thanks for the reply and the news.

another quick question, is media worth storing on the my book? meaning, if i store my music/video's on the my book, will i be able to stream from my networked pc's?

thanks again

Re: 500mb. max transfer?

nosmokers 06 Sep 2008 00:44

Hi, I am a fresh owner of a 1TB WDMBWE.

Being a compulsive buyer, I start reading reviews about it only after having bought it.
However (so far it is just a week I got it) the only thing I can confirm among all the negative reviews is that it is really slow !
It is not noisy at all, as someone says, and I hope it will not burn out, as happened to some other guys, and has never abruptly disconnected, but it is really slow !
I have it connected to a wireless router but I do not think that this is the reason.
The trasmission rate between to PCs both connected wireless to the router, is much much higher than that between a PC connected wireless and the WDMBWE cabled to the router !
I am just now experimenting a transfer of a DVD iso image from a PC to the net drive. Its size is 8.200 KB and the transfer is expected to complete in something more than 2 hours !
That is more or less the duration of the movie and additional contents.
Nevertheless yesterday I saw some scenes from another iso image already stored on the net drive, just a few scenes, but they were rendered smoothly and without stops. In the next days I will try to see a whole movie and perhaps two movies from two PCs at the same time (would it word ?).

Then the answers are :
No , there is not that limit on the size of the files to be trasferred
Yes, you can stream videos from it (and then the music will not be a concern, needing much less speed)

Reading the reviews I was directed to this and other sites offering hints to overcome some bottleneck and get something more from this item.
I will try to apply them (eg remove mionet processes etc).
I just connected to it via ssh. It is now a saved session in my PuTTY !

Is there some good port of gcc for it ?

bye and thanks

Re: 500mb. max transfer?

nosmokers 06 Sep 2008 13:53

Some addenda :

1) Perhaps I was too strong about the transfer speed. I would prefer more testing (e.g. with all nodes wired) before saying a "definitive" figure .

2) Forget double streaming, at least wireless.

3) Read about gcc on this same site …

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Re: 500mb. max transfer?

ETMegabyte 06 Sep 2008 14:06

I am just now experimenting a transfer of a DVD iso image from a PC to the net drive. Its size is 8.200 KB and the transfer is expected to complete in something more than 2 hours !

Actually, I'm surprised. For a 700MB XviD Ripped movie it takes me about 8 minutes to move. For your 8,200MB ISO, it should be about 96 minutes. You may be receiving a little extra slowness due to the wireless, since wireless connections are on/off/on/off all the time when transferring data. I think the extra on/off for each burst of packets may be slowing you down a little bit.

I agree with you that the drive isn't loud. I have one of the two MBWE2's I own in my bedroom (along with my PC) and with exception to the occasional fan spin-up, I don't really hear it at all.

I have disabled MIONET on both of my MBWE2s. I also have SSH access to both of them.

Is there some good port of gcc for it ?

From what I've read, you'll want to install the Optware package on your box. GCC is an available package in Optware (Look in the 'OPTWARE' Forum here for how to install it). I don't need it, as the only box that I really mess with is 1.xx.18 Firmware which still includes GCC.

-ET

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ETMegabyte 06 Sep 2008 13:50

Just to give you an idea (and in comparison to the post by 'nosmokers'), I use my MyBooks almost exclusively for MP3s and Videos.

I, personally, am HORRIBLE with CDs/DVDs. I ruin them and lose them all the time. The MyBooks have resolved that for me.

I've been ripping my DVD collection to XviD, and ripping my CDs to MP3, and have had no problems with them. An XviD movie, at 700Mb, takes about 8 minutes (I think) to move to the MyBook from my PC after I rip it. Windows Vista reports about 4.6MB/s transfer speed. Considering the bitrate of an average XviD movie is around 1Mb/s or less (One MegaBIT or less), then streaming it over a 4.6 MegaBYTE per second connection is perfectly fine. In fact, I can upload new stuff to the box while my roommate is watching a movie with no studdering of any kind. MP3s are the same way. Most MP3s are 128 KiloBITS per second, which is about 1/8 of a megabit per second. Theoretically I could stream (128k each, multiply by 8*8*4.6 = ~4.6MB/s transfer speed) 294 MP3s at the same time before saturating the available transfer speed of my MBWE. This isn't realistic as the MBWE is too slow to handle ~300 connections simultaneously, but I threw it out there to let you know that the bandwidth isn't going to be your problem.

I don't really "notice" any slowness in the MBWE unless I'm copying movies to/from it. As a streaming source, it works perfectly for my needs.

-ET

Re: 500mb. max transfer?

nosmokers 06 Sep 2008 14:08

Well, if you use compressed formats, the needed bandwith is of course lesser.
I found a single streaming from an uncompressed DVD-iso OK.
Two, impossible. Perhaps with compressed formats also a double streaming will be possible.
Not saying that, if not, WDMB isn't a good item.
Just have capabilities proportioned to its class of price.
Perhaps multiple HQ streaming is not one of its requisites … but we are just discussing about its boundaries not to criticize but to discover all we can do or not with it.
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Re: 500mb. max transfer?

ETMegabyte 06 Sep 2008 14:15

Just have capabilities proportioned to its class of price.

You, my friend, have quickly realized what many many many people I've come into contact with can't seem to understand. I commend you.

The MBWE and MBWE2s were designed for low-cost large amounts of storage. You get what you pay for.

Two, impossible. Perhaps with compressed formats also a double streaming will be possible.

For XviD movies, at least, my experience is that it is possible. My roommate watches movies from the living room all the time. I often do from my bedroom as well, and neither of us has ever noticed any problems. I also know that I have uploaded new movies to the box while he is watching a movie, and it doesn't skip or studder for him.

-ET

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nosmokers 06 Sep 2008 14:38

I commend you.

Thanks, its just a matter of common sense (perhaps no longer as "common" as it should be …. ;-D ).

As for gcc, are you saying that I lost it upgrading the firmware to 2.0.18 ?

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Re: 500mb. max transfer?

ETMegabyte 06 Sep 2008 14:54

Yes, that is correct. The 1.xx firmware included gcc, but (I'm guessing here) because people kept messing with the box, they removed gcc from the image of the 2.x firmware. I suppose it's also possible they didn't include gcc to keep the upgrade image smaller. Either way, it's not included now. The firmware "upgrade" isn't really an upgrade at all. It's basically a reinstall of the OS, which is why it fails so often.

I have two MBWE2s here, one with 1.x and one with 2.x firmware, and the 1.x firmware box has gcc installed on it, the 2.x does not.

It was one of the biggest complaints here when the 2.x firmware came out. Everyone ran to upgrade to it, then got mad because gcc was now gone ;)

I've read that Optware has a package with gcc in it, so that's how people have been getting it back. I've also read step-by-steps on copying individual files from backups into the proper places, but that just seems like a lot of work to me….

I only really mess with the 1.x box anyway, so I've never needed to mess with it. I wish I could help you more.

-Et

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Re: 500mb. max transfer?

nosmokers 06 Sep 2008 15:20

Thanks for the info.
I will try to get gcc from the Optware package (sure it does not hurt ?).

For sure with a 300MHz cpu one cannot do many things…
It was just for curiosity and to avoid to mess up some PC with a full Linux distribution …. once one has a kind of it on MyBook …

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Re: 500mb. max transfer?

ETMegabyte 06 Sep 2008 15:49

I do know that the optware package will install if you follow the directions closely. I installed it on my 1.x box and it works fine. As I said, I don't mess with the 2.x box much, in fact the only mod that I've made to that one is to change the samba server comment so it looks better in XP (and obviously I've enabled SSH)…

I do most of my mods on the 1.x box. So that's the one that does NFS, Optware, FTP Server, etc.

I've read that many people have installed the optware package on 2.x and have had no problems.

Good luck.

-ET